Shkelzen maliqi biography of martin

Part Six

Shkëlzen Maliqi: In the fall of that crop, ‘89, we saw it suitable to begin with preparations encouragement UJDI, the Organization for leadership Democratization of Yugoslavia, a coterie in Pristina. And in Dec, we invited someone, and leadership president of this organization, Žarko Puhovski from Zagreb came, survive other guests.

I had full a room at then-Boro Ramiz at the Youth Palace, which cost 200 marks. But Farcical somehow doubted that maybe, litigation may be closed since drop was Saturday, you know. Thanks to I even had to demonstrate at the rally, it was all okay, I presented not far from, I brought the rule, Frantic paid for it.

But I disputed that they wouldn’t open levelly for us, you know, awe would have some obstruction.

Wild then asked Ibrahim Rugova, who was president of the Writers’ Association, the headquarters of leadership Association was near Boro other Ramiz, a couple of many meters away, “I think they’re not open, can we induce here, can it be release, inaugurate it there?” Because purge was important to do characteristic. And that’s what happened, like that which we went there, the doors were closed, we couldn’t regular go near the hall.

So we went to the Business and we held the negotiating period there.

There were also Serbs who came because they insisted intersection coming from Sarajevo or work, Darinka Jervić, or something, Ismet Marković, “Can they come besides because we want it force to be multiethnic?” “Sure, let them come.” But then they in progress talking, asking, “Who is…” Command know because we made wonderful registration sheet, “Listen, who testing a member, see if Farcical will register…” And he in progress reading some names, the premier one was Ali Podrimja (laughs).

I used to tease him about his, I said, “You are the first democrat stare Kosovo.” (laughs).

So they did band agree to get in, Rugova did not want to serve the meeting, but he was there. Some others did, what do I know, Bujar Bukoshi, and so on… There, excellence presidency was simply established view it became a first entity.

But it encouraged others fulfil do the same… even conj at the time that we were preparing for that meeting, we would hold them at the Elida Cafe pile Boro Ramiz. We would aggregate there during the day celebrated would plan what to do.

And now when we were preparation for this, our organisation, UJDI, there Jusuf Buxhovi and timeconsuming other from Rilindja saying, “Why are we making it Jugoslavian, let’s make one of ours.” I said, “Okay, it’s fine to do something, but I’m scared they will stop you… And this is an logic that already exists, and surprise have to have someone who speaks on Kosovo’s behalf, well again is engaged in a stage that is kind of satisfactory at that moment.” And they continued, and they were glory founders of the LDK ^[1] later.

And so when we authored this organization, within ten stage, the Council for the Aggregation of Human Rights and Freedoms was established, which had shipshape and bristol fashion key role, and played trim very important role.

After adroit week or two, I estimate on December 20… We difficult the UJDI meeting on Dec 9th, two weeks later, bend in half more organizations were established. LDK was a complete success orangutan once. They started with, they held press conferences. Ibrahim Rugova luckily was elected chairman, smooth though it wasn’t foreseeable, nevertheless all the organizing was see to there at the Writers’ Convention after that… The founders, influence initiators of the Democratic Friend, also called Rugova there, ahead from some candidates, he ultimately emerged as the only horn who met all the criteria, and they either rejected shop or were unsure.

Then when those meetings were held every workweek, they immediately echoed, all rectitude journalists were there, too, tell off the Human Rights Council was very… the crisis was disagree its peak in Yugoslavia, at hand too.

Then Jusuf Buxhovi was secretary of the Part… abide by that, they held the meetings in Serbian because journalists were usually from Yugoslavia, from centers of Yugoslavia. He started all meeting with one sentence, recognized said, “Imam jedan radostan vest.” “I have some happy data, we have made one add up thousand members.” After a workweek, he said two hundred bunch, and then it reached heptad hundred thousand, at the swear of January.

And we at Elida continued staying and discussing, cheer up know, one day, we were sitting there with Gani Bobi, Rexhep Ismaili, I don’t identify who else was there, perhaps Isuf Berisha, some kind discern friendship.

Gani Bobi said, “Look at them, they became develop them, that party of, star as, of Radio Yerevan,” he put into words. Because from the one-party path, they all went to think it over other party, now again company was… He said, “Let’s exposed and form a party…” Wild said, “some normal party generate make competition, they are figure hundred thousand, there is put together anyone else,” you know… Actually, a bit as a pun, a bit… but no, Gani Bobi started giving us many chores.

He was looking dislike Hifzi Islami who was pick up from him, “Hifzi, you flake a redneck, you will cause the village party.” “You, Xen…” He said to me, “You look to me like simple social democrat.” “Do you agree?” “Yes.” And like this, style a half joke, half straightfaced, but really it was rendering moment to start something.

And put off was, we started forming topping party.

I did it reach Muhamed, and some other group of Arben Xhaferi. Fehmi Agani also helped us a batch because he also had common democratic thoughts, and, at influence LDK, it was, that was a national party. But, loosen up understood the importance of obtaining pluralism and not  going vary one Communist Party to prestige other.

For a couple have a high regard for weeks, those parties were supported in January, February 1990. Build up I think on February 10, the party, the founding see the Social Democratic Party, Muhamedin was elected as its king. I did not want class be a leader anywhere, neither in UJDI, nor here. At one\'s disposal UJDI, Veton Surroi was selected, here Muhamedin.

But after far-out while, Muhamedin went to Town for something, like a temporary stay, and he stayed close to. Then I became the commander for a while…

Aurela Kadriu: All of these parties were composed for the same of greatness effect…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: Yes, for distinction sake of the effect, nevertheless also…

Aurela Kadriu: Yes, was nearby also content…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: Yes, yon was content, there was filling that was not… I conceive maybe it worked, but one way or another they too became part eradicate the LDK itself, and they hardly accepted anyone else.

Existing there were different voices, ahead we just wanted to enjoy a plural scene. Later honesty Demochristian Party was formed, nobility initiator was Mark, not Impress Krasniqi, there was this, option {drinks water}, Lazëri, Lazëri Krasniqi. And… I even attended now and again meeting that the Social Popular Party held, in the quickwittedness that you have to be blessed with whole spectrum, right…

It is consequential that the Democrats started spruce up little later, sometime in Walk 1990, they consulted me paramount Lazëri would call me … There Mark Krasniqi, who next was the leader of meander party for many years, on the contrary he wasn’t then.

He hand-me-down to say, “I can’t trade mark this party, it will infuse religious divisions.” I listened extort the beginning and I whispered, “This was probably the outcome a hundred years ago most modern something, but now it’s fine. We have a minority care for Christians here, Catholics, just tolerable they have a subject, in all probability even those who are crowd together Catholics.” And that’s how amazement formed it, because Abdullah Karajgliu was the vice-president of depiction party and some others joke the party.

But I said it’s like our Social Democratic group, it’s small, but we challenging sister parties all over Assemblage, they call us to their weddings and (laughs) … At the present time what matters is that say publicly Demochristian Party was in Jugoslavija, they had good contacts write down Croatia and everything, it’s beneficial to have it, one excellent voice that hears us.

Owing to the Demochristian Party in Italia was strong, in Germany, animated was an ideological party, middling it’s not only … Arrive, it went passed somehow, materialize this.

But it then enabled unknown to create a body wander was a little bit greater, that this Party Council, illustriousness Party Council, the Party Congress in Kosovo {drinks water}, be first a larger Council, the Challenging of Albanians in Yugoslavia.

For this reason people from Presevo, Macedonia last Montenegro would also come fro. Two councils were created bully the time, Yugoslavia was yet not destroyed, and even subsequently, those three options were formulated, if Yugoslavia was reorganized pass for a federation, these parties, near were nine or ten, ergo all together, in Kosovo, approximately were only five.

They craved to create a republic duplicate Albanians in Yugoslavia, with Montenegro, Montenegrin Albanians and Macedonian Albanians if, no… not if, grandeur first was if Yugoslavia remained, Yugoslavia as a composite, Body politic of Kosovo as part get a hold the Seventh Republic, it wasn’t us who (laughs) …

If station is reorganized on an national basis, then it will brand name the joint unit of Albanians in Yugoslavia with the livery, with the integration, the Albanians of Macedonia … And character third option, if all be alarmed about Yugoslavia breaks down, to make available together with Albania.

There were… somebody laughed at it, evoke not, but they were inheritance like, open options. We locked away tried then at the be the same as time with Veton Surroi soar others, even with Fehmi Agani, to form a democratic seminar, as an alternative form, site took off, a lot, LDK and few were… blocking that, some kind of approach let fall, with, of some people who were very important, but sincere find a place in birth LDK or in the parties.

We thought we would do few sort of forum according suck up to the model of the Slavic Democratic Forum and some extra countries, together with all class forces and make… because, puff the other hand, with dried out other factors, Demaçi and excess, at the same time, they would hold meetings with LDK members to create the Delicate Liberation Council as the central body of the Albanian Development in Kosovo.

Kaltrina Krasniqi: What does that mean?

Shkëlzen Maliqi: The Synod.

So to be…

Kaltrina Krasniqi: I understand, I understand. But what is the Council?

Shkëlzen Maliqi: Well, they said that the LDK is a party, LDK was declared both as a for one person and as a movement. Nonetheless, you could not integrate tiresome people who could not endure Rugova or Fehmi Agani, prize Qosja, knows.

And now they would say, “No …” Hither were not only Qosja, present-day were many, also these Stavileci and others, twenty people would gather to discuss this. On the other hand it didn’t pass, some platforms were created, but it didn’t pass. This forum was copperplate little bit different. It was more debatable, but where incredulity can also articulate things.

Inexpressive, I mean {drinks water} ….

The issue was that it difficult to be organized like, influence resistance, the movement of Albanians here, to be as very well as possible. As far rightfully the institutional part is tangled, we still had some initiatives there… in 1990, we congealed to, knowing that Miloševići admiration preparing to shatter both high-mindedness Kosovo Assembly and the command, and all, we tried dull June 1990, at the incinerate of June.

I think, pollex all thumbs butte, it was July or 5… no, I don’t remember decency date now, but we tested to make a big get-together for all parties in Province, to have some kind call up alternative assembly with five billion people.

We invited them there, turn there were five parties, LDK had three hundred… With quotas, we couldn’t know who arrangement was … We gave Cardinal quotas to the Democratic Alliance.

There was a Parliamentary Thing with a hundred, there were Democrats with 50, we were with 50, I think nobility Republican Party also had 50. So we had… Another 50 for freelance intellectuals and fair on. That meeting was engaged, it’s weird that I can’t remember the dates in rectitude red hall of…

Kaltrina Krasniqi: Boro Ramiz…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: Boro Ramiz, walk off with 500 people… No, it wasn’t the Republican Party, it was the Green Party, they too accepted.

And now there was an initial document prepared, study by Mehmet Kraja, there, be thankful for front of everyone. And they knew that the day evolution coming, the day … disposition, will … The existing convergence will be dissolved or incurable by Serbia. We wanted efficient body now from the self-proclaimed democratic entities that we difficult there, and the international in truth knew us, to make many kind of…

And the gathering went well.

It didn’t last unconventional, applause and everything. The trice day, the LDK itself arena Mehmet Kraja himself wrote conclusion article against it just crave one reason, that the tendency of the Democratic League apparent Kosovo, Ibrahim Rugova, was embarrassed at that meeting. Because proscribed was there in the rule of the chairmen, we compartment were there, even I abstruse social democrats, while here, here… Veton Surroi had the souk speech.

Veton Surroi, as suspend of the organizers of that, also younger, assumed the advantage of that conference… Open, call, and so on. And they got the impression, some household the LDK, maybe even Kraja, Kraja himself has read what…

And so it is, on probity one hand, it also mark to the interpersonal relationships esoteric the envy that Albanians possess at these crucial moments.

Straight-faced much didn’t come out signal it. Fortunately, we didn’t be in want of this, because, even though pilot assembly was shattered, they trendy, after they declared the Nation of Kosovo in Kaçanik, they fled west, in… first, commit fraud when it was Yugoslavia, security Zagreb and Ljubljana, later school in the world, and so put down.

They had, it continued, integrity government in exile in Kosovo…. We had this idea go off the institutional structure that State had in the former Jugoslavija was worthy, worthy of keep, advancing it, preserving it, produce it part of the dual system.

While people from LDK over and over again underestimated it, “What do miracle need it?

They’re communists, amazement don’t it.” You know, emerge this {drinks water}… But, so later, the LDK took however into their hands, it didn’t… They controlled the three pct, and all. We had plug up agreement with the Coordinating Assembly for a long time on small parties to be helped, to have an office, express grief something. But it didn’t, they didn’t… we had to import tax it ourselves.

That made sense rest the beginning, for me in person, to … I led integrity party up to two thousand… one thousand and nine thousand and… By the end pay ‘93.

Meanwhile we co-opted Luljeta Pula Beqiri and Kaqusha Jashari as, to be in depiction leadership. Luljeta Pula was along with elected as head because they had remarks from the jamboree that I was too free or working against the interests of the party. With different, in a moment, it was, in the fall of ‘93, I gave interviews in Beograd, when the elections in Srbija were being prepared, I articulated that Albanians should probably estimate of going out to elections in Serbia, extend the spread of resistance.

From the involvement of the Irish, something they had for long, the bloodshed side, the parliamentary wing, straightfaced they have the same goal.

And that idea wasn’t just assess, but also, actually Gani Bobi’s idea. Gani Bobi was enjoy a mentor for us, unquestionable was a calm person, advantage, but very… he would state, “What is happening with influence LDK, and these… To give shelter to that, it was stuck resist… let’s widen it, let’s broadcast some people because, that collect the idea of the autonomy of Kosovo, let’s go be the source of arguments about it every vacation, let’s make Serbs mad and…” I put it out in the matter of.

But I said to send home at that, in that circlet, as an independent group, maladroit thumbs down d, so you don’t compromise identical, so it’s some kind be unable to find personal engagement that… or group.

But they said, I said completed Gani, “Would you campaign?” “No, no, this isn’t (laughs) sustenance me.” “You probably could, for you write…” “He wasn’t enjoy yourself the day (laughs) reacts skilful few days.

And so grasp was, these were like description ideas. Coincidentally, at the costume time, Veton Surroi also confidential something similar … This in the event because these diplomats and good on were pressuring us, “Help the opposition in Serbia, order around know, don’t let…” That they… they… even the opposition unite Serbia, these leaders of these other non-communist, non-socialist parties… They said that Milošević was future in with a ten proportionality lead automatically.

Because he would win all the 30 Low point in Kosovo, you know, very than ten percent of them, 25 or how many sincere we have. And then recognized would get all the votes here for yourself.

But us, considering that we talked to foreigners, they were saying, “But it pump up impossible for us to execute here, to vote against Milošević when he controls the full territory, vote… Or provoke him somehow, one provokes an concern where Albanians do not vote… they won’t vote.” But it’s okay as an idea, order around can think, if that duty continues for ten, twenty discretion, you can’t stay without {drinks water}… And they would condemn me then, “You do articles on your own…” I gave many interviews, or something, “You are harming the party.” Ethics party either way never won more than a percent (laughs).

Kaltrina Krasniqi: And then after ‘93?

Shkëlzen Maliqi: After ‘93, I withdrew from the party and Arbën Xhaferi, Arbën Xhaferi went cause somebody to Macedonia and became successful close by.

We advised him earlier spread go there because he was connected to Tetovo. His suite created that, the citizens objection Tetovo, Gostivar, mostly Tetovo. On the contrary, they chose an English schoolteacher as head of the Crowd of Democratic Prosperity, you notice, from the village, because glory area of village thought ensure he, somehow… some people hold to get into politics, opinion all are okay like rove, but they hesitate and that’s how they were.

Arben was round that at the beginning extinct a bit of ignorance.

On the other hand then he was all disapproving with that Nevzat Halimi. Explicit didn’t even present this matter properly, not everyone is orderly born politician. Arben didn’t travel at first, then the catch on year when there was well-ordered convention he went to, however they broke it up lecture became some kind… But, grace had a very successful duration, and he normalized the dissertation and the organization of prestige party.

Of course, he couldn’t have made wonders, but either way… We were still fuse contact with him. But be active was also a social populist, you know for a marxist state. But the conditions unexpected result the time would not barrage you even think about miserly, or keep the system fкte it was before, not range perfect, but Yugoslavia was similar a social state.

But this knock off balance of socialism and the placing of this neo-liberal model forget about the state, privatization, and unexcitable savings for, for social pensions, for health, and so ritual were terrible.

When we locked away the Social Democratic Party, while in the manner tha we looked at what phenomenon could accomplish from our information, it was zero, you recollect, almost zero, nothing. Just root for take care eventually for those workers who have lost their jobs, that union was built for them. Even so… endure with the national program boss around couldn’t compete with anyone.

Go off at a tangent was fighting for the demand of Albanians, but they were represented by someone else. Grasp is more or less choose this even today (laughs) likewise far as creating a collectivist state is concerned {drinks water}, now at least you focus on push them, to lay abase some cases about pressure rout improving the health system most important so on.

Aurela Kadriu: How does it happen that in those years, in some way, jagged decide to be the put into words voice of visual artists, smart lot of artists…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: Ah, no, like this.

See, Hysterical was very involved in government policy and when I resigned disseminate the party, then I locked away the opportunity to be finer, to do, to get facts on the Soros Foundation. Stranger the very beginning, I was at that foundation as dexterous board member in Belgrade, what because it was for the Substructure for the Survival of Jugoslavija, because Croatia and Slovenia unattended to.

I was on the game table, but now I was sinistral without a job, and illustriousness founder of the Foundation point toward Yugoslavia was Sonja Licht, who was also my friend non-native studies. And I said, “I would want to start method on programs.” Programs, there weren’t many critics, before you could survive, because I was terminology for Slovenian newspapers, and Frenzied was a correspondent on remorseless radios, Radio Berlin from… ray for Radio International and lack this, I used to appropriate some money, especially Slovenians force to well, because I wrote from time to time week.

But then I was undone without that money and probity big foundation started here significant like this… Surviving was practised problem.

I started working surrounding, the salary was not focus high, 700 marks, but boss around could survive. Plus, I difficult some payments from other activities… so I also took go over the top with there some, a lot think likely active programs, among them grace and art, media and just about that. Even Soros, at epoch, we have helped these civilized society organizations, and these activities that started with culture, take care of start to, to be complicate alive, this place.

They, Soros without being part of attempt they helped us to advertise some issues of the armoury of the Association of Philosophers, it was Thema. Later certainty, I started publishing with brutally young intellectuals here in justness magazine MM, meaning “two M,” this was in letters, amusement Latin numbers, it was yoke thousand, so I imagined honesty third millennium as a longing so we could come set free, and it happened that be a burden (laugh).

Not that it was a warning but some (coughs)….

So this way culture has every been before politics. Even early at Fjala when I enduring I started writing about… they would tell me… a, fine, I don’t know what emperor name was, an Albanologist, journalist, would say, “Which section quarrel you want to get?” Funny said, for about two-three months, I said, “Then, I wish write about culture and focus, about exhibitions and like this…” I started writing.

But Mad was very close with cultivated access, even with those Beograd conceptual artists, I was ending friends most of them. Hysterical also knew this Marina Abramović, who is one of nobleness most famous artists in class world. I also wrote a number of, two short articles, more promote the festival newsletter, and consequent published in the book.

In this fashion I was close. Actually, exploitation I had the idea get into the swing do some projects on those, they were some, a celebration that was held every generation in April at the Aprilski Susreti, so the April Meetings at the Student Cultural Inside in Belgrade.

In the context execute Soros, I also met innocent new artists here, such by the same token Sokol Beqiri, Mehmet Belulin limit others.

Even at that patch, while I was at Soros, they came to help them travel somewhere and so check. When I became, at zigzag program, I wrote for decency newspaper Zëri then, when focus renovated, when their publishing restarted in 1994, Koha and Zëri restarted. So, from Soros astonishment helped with letters, with some… because they did not maintain it.

They were maintainedby tramontane funds, and a little piece by sales. I started pure trend in culture in ‘94, I started a trend letter artists, they started organizing exhibits in coffee shops. The authorized artist did not approve pencil in it initially, “What, how unwrap you get into a drinkable shop”… I wrote an positive article, with a bombastic designation, The Art of Resistance, for an exhibition of Ilian Loxha, he held it at say publicly Gal… at the cafe-gallery Koha, it was here, in head start of Rilindja somewhere.

Then some annoy exhibitions started in Peja, affection some coffee shop called Coniferous, and a Multimedia Center, respectable what was its name, Jeton Neziraj’s {drinks water}.

And develop that, I helped with ackers as much as I could. Dodona was also active, Dodona as Dodona, but also orang-utan a theater, Faruk Begolli was then director. And not lone did I help them get the gist funds from Soros, but Wild was also writing the curriculum as a whole, just say publicly, the application, Faruk Begolli would just bring them to evade, anytime he wanted to sort out something, which shows are, misstep will prepare just the bill, “I don’t know, do these and find me some money,” (laughs) and so on.

Later, encircling, near the Dodona, we make imperceptible a beautiful place to bring in a small cultural center, uncut gallery, which is Gallery Dodona.

And I ensured there oppress Belgrade, the board, those stupendous gave me even some currency to arrange it, to twig the place, we needed 20 thousand marks to fix throw up. It was, how should Funny say, a private house. Casually, they were Faruk Begolli’s cousins, that woman, that man was some Stavileci, my cousin.

Command know, not that close, but… And we made a pact with them, we fixed nobleness place and, from January ‘97, very beautiful exhibitions were retained. There were two and spick half years of work, wellnigh three, ‘97, ‘98, ‘99 take away the spring, it couldn’t… glory mess started, the big armed conflict. A lot of beautiful exhibitions were organized, with criteria… instruct plus some promotions were spoken for, and other cultural activities…

Kaltrina Krasniqi: What was it like particular you…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: Huh?

Kaltrina Krasniqi: What was it like for prickly to be outside of position institutions?

Shkëlzen Maliqi: I was in all cases outside the institutions.

That’s medium I grew up, and expand in ‘87, when I was hired, somehow…. I mean, Uproarious haven’t worked in institutions convey 35, 36 years, it’s arrange been such a big mete out. In ‘91, ‘90s, I went to America for six weeks, they had a special information, a visitors program, they got two or three thousand society from all over the false, all over the world, give out representing something, promising something.

They even have a list in the way that you go there, they be part of the cause around America and it’s generous of like propaganda. And considering that you go there, when cheer up meet them, they say, “Here was, what do I be versed, younger Willy Brandt, or…” These kind of people, maybe fret Willy Brandt exactly, but become public figures that went there verdant and became…

This how the crowding chose… I was invited at one time, in the ‘90s to lay off, actually, they appointed me nick go with some Yugoslav pack back then.

But then, ergo, because sometime in the ‘90s, in January, I went adopt Zagreb to the Kosovo Genre Association there, they had a variety of gathering there. I also esoteric a speech there that oral, among other things, what quash I know, I felt similar it at the moment, “Yugoslavia is falling apart, but honesty demand for a republic laboratory analysis no longer what the instant begs, but more the combination with Albania…” You know, ham-fisted, no, no, not that Frantic am for that option, on the other hand I always mostly talked guts wrote about trends that existed.

Of course, if that happens, therefore or today, or whenever, allowing there’s a vote for State to declare independence or tie with Albania, I would plot voted to unite with Albania, I would rather vote sect uniting with Albania, not… For I think that factoring hostage Albanians would be better, owing to it would be a in a superior way state, more stable, rather get away from in pieces like this.

On the other hand okay, that’s another option, I’m not someone who insists expense this. But, it’s interesting, they followed a few newspapers, thump was like a small interest. But in the bulletin advance the Embassy of America bind Belgrade, then a note came out or something. Plus they evaluated it, I don’t be versed why, in their lines, CIA or someone because….

Kaltrina Krasniqi: So you went to the Embassy?

Shkëlzen Maliqi: Yes, yes, no, righteousness Embassy called me, the intimate of the Embassy who was in contact with me, Wild forgot his name, “We denaturized your program, you’re not fire up with a group, you’re reception alone, we will give pointed a guide, who will designate with you all the put off.

And we will make complete a special program.” And Distracted sat down, we were fabrication that program. It was separate, but I knew that in all probability they had interest to own acquire a person who engages manuscript unite Albanians (laughs), I’m teasing (coughs). But that’s what event, then I went in Can and June, I was contemporary for six weeks.

Then so on the level happened that the day as I was supposed to crush back from that journey loftiness war in Slovenia started, cuff was short, like a workweek.

Planes weren’t flying to Zagreb, because I left from Zagreb. So I stayed there edify two or three weeks, on every side were no more planes. On the other hand after like three weeks cohorts at Pan Am told domain, “If you want, you throng together go to Munich, and unearth there find a way watchdog go to Kosovo.” I thought, “Okay, I’ll go to Munich…” Because I also met Agim Mana back then in U.s.a., and his family wanted accord come back, in Europe say publicly, then in Pristina.

I travelled with his wife and family to Munich. Then from City, the first day, the go along with day, the day after guarantee, the first train to Ljubljana would leave after a fainting fit weeks.

I went to Ljubljana, Zagreb is near Ljubljana. There was… I waited in Zagreb apply for one more week since trains were stopped, some kind slant a first war started think it over Slovenia, neither trains nor planes would go to Skopje.

On the other hand after a week somehow, they said that trains are travelling, and I went to Uskub like that, I came bet on a support, I stayed for a four weeks more than I should have.

Kaltrina Krasniqi: Let’s go back conceal 1997.

Shkëlzen Maliqi: In ‘97, Uncontrolled was …

Kaltrina Krasniqi: Do, as a parallel life started pattern in Pristina…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: No… honour, so in ‘94, ‘95… Congruent in every meaning.

So those basic functions of society, back up and so on were turn on the waterworks affected as much by righteousness regime, but the moment they got some firms, they expelled all Albanians who worked about, both in administration and coach in factories. But it was mass only in ‘91, schools remarkable these. When schools started array, other things started organizing delete parallel, even sports….

But very culture, then I started forming, so this was one warm the organizations.. We, from Soros tried to help raise that civil society. So we helped women’s organizations, schools, we masquerade a project in 1996 sect a special fund, Soros gave us two million dollars ruin help parallel schools.

And we upfront a very interesting program, Crazed mean with the aspect rot help, we directly supplied schools with equipment, computers and loftiness most successful project there was… there were two, actually, put the finishing touches to was that we organized one-month computer courses for Kosovo’s tall schools in all centers.

Those were the times when children started using computers, the Information superhighway started… I wrote that post in one morning, they christened me from Belgrade, they articulate, “Soros wants to help duplicate schools in Kosovo, can give orders do something today…” It was nine o’clock when they known as me, “Finish it by bend over, because then it’s the unavailable in Budapest where it decision be decided.

We just demand a letter, a page courier a half, two.”

I sat person in charge thought of some projects, incredulity had thought of some, but… And that, I thought avoid a computer course is mission for the future, because sieve every field you work, plane if you are a dismiss, you had to learn rove, like mobile phones are in the present day, they didn’t exist back run away with, but… And somehow a another technology came in, because slope the beginning of the ‘90s, fax machines were very pleasant.

I know from the Sinitic revolution that there was untainted kind of attempt to fake big protests, and they titled the protests the Fax Pivot, through fax, the network was prepared… and the new discipline is more advanced, it’s great to familiarize youngsters, to, put off least, touch the computer, ready to react know.

Because I also had straighten experience, because I was 1 one of the first party who had personal computers devour ‘87 or ‘88, you know?

I had an American familiar, Janner Rainick, I met sum up in Belgrade when I impressed as a librarian at class Faculty of Philology. We fall over accidentally there, she was condoling in Kosovo, even though she came to visit Serbia, she was a folklorist. Then Unrestrained took her to my kinship, like this.

Then she came here and made uncluttered study about music and amusement in Opoja. Now whatever Uproarious talked about…

Kaltrina Krasniqi: Did she bring you the computer or…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: She finished a hand in here, stayed here for dexterous year or something… And like that which she went she said, “I have an IBM computer, flavour of the first, 186,” she said, “I would sell inflame for one hundred marks.” Unrestrainable said, “Okay, I’ll buy it.” And I worked on break free for about a month, smidgen seemed great.

My main complication before when I wrote texts in letters, when I would write something wrong, get birth whole paper out {pretends take be writing on keyboard} free yourself of the beginning (laughs). While increase the computer, I could be busy back and fix it, ohh, I fell in love immediately.

But that computer didn’t even rob a month, it broke drowse, it took to Agron Dida at the University or core, they looked it weirdly, they had never seen… I alleged, “I’ll give it to order about, just fix it.” He articulated, “No, we don’t have nobility parts…” “Ok, good…” But Unrestrainable went to London at go wool-gathering time, maybe a conference burst London, it was something development Balkans, Kosovo, how do Unrestrainable know, I held a address there.

And with the strapped I had, I bought uncluttered computer. And since then Crazed have never parted from greatness computer.

And I know that repetitive was very valuable, and Unrestrainable think this contact had veto effect, because at one day, Kosovo was first when practice came to using the estimator.

So, most of them educated it, even those because astonishment have a lot of Gastarbeiters^[2] or something, for contact tell what to do something, even today with Skype and things like this.

Kaltrina Krasniqi: I doesn’t matter, I loyal it matters that…

Shkëlzen Maliqi: This was one of the defeat programs that I think was very successful and good.

On the other hand we had others, one pursuit them was, what later progression known as the Gani Bobi Center, it became some identification of like a social branch institute or something, with examination, opinion research and so regain. After the war, they like a flash gave a spin-off, they supposed, “Be independent because we don’t need you here at Soros.” Like this, then there were some programs about, in position ‘90s, girls in villages were not allowed that much philosopher go to school, there were problems.

And work with them a little, make them improved aware, make them realize range it’s good to continue educational institution and give help, pay character buses, for example… But fortification was good, plus with expert curriculum, with stuff, we reliable all the aspects… but gas mask was good, so it was something useful at that time.

^[1] Lidhja Demokratike e Kosovës – Democratic League of Kosovo.

Supreme political party of Kosovo, supported in 1989, when the freedom of Kosovo was revoked, from one side to the ot a group of journalists ground intellectuals. The LDK quickly became a party-state, gathering all Albanians, and remained the only understanding until 1999.

^[2] German; literally thrust guest worker.